Tavern Talk with ex-Orlando Pirates' Phiri Tsotetsi: 'I'm Going To Tell Khoza...'

Phiri Tsotetsi started his professional football career at Moroka Swallows in 1993.He didn’t last that long in the game after he broke his right ankle playing for AmaZulu in 1999. He is currently working in the mines in Vaal and says he had his best spell at Orlando Pirates.

Phiri, you played for Orlando Pirates, Moroka Swallows and AmaZulu. Where did you enjoy your game the most?

It was definitely at Pirates. The changes that were taking place at the time encouraged us as players. It’s just that at Moroka Swallows, our boss David Chabeli always made empty promises to the players.

He would say we were going to get salary increases the next month, but then when the time arrived, he would come up with stories. It wasn’t nice to see a player who’s not playing regularly getting paid more than you while you always make the starting line-up.

Sure.

I remember one time the club had just got sponsorship from Engen. So Johannes Mine and I went to Chabeli’s office and said, “Baba, we’re suffering. We need money for transport and to buy takkies for ourselves to look good.”

We used to come to training with another guy’s car and we wanted to at least give him something so that he looks forward to the trips. But Chabeli asked us, “Madoda, are you saying that just because we’ve got this sponsorship, we should take the money out, put it on the table and share all of it amongst ourselves? What will the club be left with?” Ha, ha, ha!

Let’s talk about Pirates. Who did you share a room with there?

I had many roommates, but before Vincent Sokhela joined us, I mostly shared a room with Andries Sebola and Steve Lekoelea. Andries was very quiet but liked laughing. He was more like Helman Mkhalele in that if one player was teasing another one, he would add his bit and then leave it there.

Steve used to tease Jerry Sikhosana a lot and Jerry would always run after him. Gerald Raphahlela had a scratch on his face and because of that Steve called him ‘Marhamba’. So ja, we had too many characters in the team and you’d always laugh when you were around them. We were like a family. We always used to sit in the late Bra Joe Ramogoadi’s room and have fun.

Tell us about Bra Joe, the former Bucs masseur – may his soul rest in peace. We’re told he was the real joker!

Bernard ‘Shooz’ Lushozi and Bra Joe used to tease each other all the time. But there’s this one time when Steve did something naughty to Bra Joe. We were in camp and Bra Joe was in his room, taking a bath in the basin.

He hadn’t locked the room and his back was facing towards the door. So Steve came in and found him wearing boxer shorts, and then he stuck his finger on his behind, as if to tickle him, and then ran away before Bra Joe could see him.

Hmmm!

After he finished bathing, Bra Joe went up to the guys and said, “There’s someone who came into my room and stuck his finger on my behind and ran away. Who is it?” Ha, ha, when he found out it was Steve, he was angry! He kept on saying, “I’m going to see you at the disciplinary hearing, boy.

I’m going to tell Irvin Khoza about this!” Ha, ha. What a great time I had at Pirates...that’s why I was heartbroken when I had to leave. I only heard through the newspapers that I was on the transfer list. It was so, so painful!

What a funny bunch of players there, hey!

Yes, I mean we also had guys like Bruce Ramokadi. We used to play cards and dice, but not in the sense of gambling, but to keep the team spirit going. Mark Fish, Edward Motale and Gavin Lane were the main suspects when it came to sneaking out of camp.

I recall one time the three guys had spent the night elsewhere and the following day we were going to take a picture of the team. So Fish completely forgot about it and while we were all neatly dressed in black and white suits, he quickly rushed home and grabbed some shirt, jacket and trousers. He was so bad looking he had to stand at the back, ha, ha, ha!

Ha, ha...

Those three loved to go partying, but you wouldn’t pick that up when they were in a game, they played with such passion! The thing at Pirates is that when we went out onto the field, we thought about the fans. We would say to each other before the game, “Guys, we’ve got great support. If we lose today, we’ll lose the fans. Without the fans, there’s no team.”

Motale was a fantastic character. He once told Helman, “Irvin found you selling bananas and brooms on the street and signed you.”

Who was your funniest coach?

Viktor Bondarenko! He never liked China Masondo and always put him in the stands. At training he would choose the 18 players to travel to the game. Then on the day of the game, he would select the 11 that were going to start the game. Then he would say, “All the others are on the bench...except China!” He did it every time, ha, ha, and China ended up hating him too!

Have you played with players who always gave funny excuses when they came late to training?

Yes, there was Patrick Machete! I remember he bought a VW Golf and the gears of the car were close to each other. So one time he was going to training and he wanted to go out of his home’s sliding gate. He pressed the remote control and the gate opened. He wanted to get the car into reverse gear so he could go out, but mistakenly got it into first gear.

He looked behind him and stepped on the clutch and the accelerator, and before he knew it, the car went into the other direction and banged against the wall. Ha, ha, ha! He then didn’t go to training and said his grandmother had died. When it was month-end, he was always the one to let us know. Eish, I’ll forever remember those days. That was celebrity life, but after I retired, I had to adjust to normal life.

Tell us about using muti.

I used it at all the teams I played for. There was this one day at Pirates when Brandon Silent refused to use it and said he was a mzalwane (church person), but was told, “Hey, this is Orlando Pirates. It’s not a tuck shop. You either use muti or find another team.” Then the mlungus started diving into the bath, ha, ha, ha! When you signed for them, the first thing Irvin would ask you is, “Uqinile ndoda? (Do you use muti?) Go get something from your gogo or else you won’t make it.”

The Nigerian guys like Sam Pam used to pray, but they would put a small bottle in front of them while doing so! It was worse at AmaZulu because they were in Durban and believed in it a lot. They’d always say, “God helps those who help themselves.”

Tavern Talk Fun Facts:

Best player I’ve ever faced: Roger Feutmba

Best player I’ve played with: John Moeti

Biggest pay cheque: R8 000

Smallest pay cheque: R699

Former team that used the most muti: AmaZulu

Favourite current player: Itumeleng Khune

Current occupation: New Vaal Colliery (opencast mine) employee


Former teams: Moroka Swallows, Orlando Pirates, AmaZulu

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